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Michael Wallach's avatar

Great interview! I recommend people check out this doc series on the issue as well: www.theviraldelusion.com

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Allen's avatar

The interview here is excellent. Where M Bailey and other "virus deniers" can tighten up their narrative and further discredit the germ theory quackery is to do a 3-5 minute intro (before going into the science) into the prevailing social conditions that served to propel "germ theory" into the "acceptable" domain of scientific and public discourse.

That's a huge missing piece here and makes the entire story (for that is what it is) of "the microbe as causual agent" even more preposterous and you can then see the motives for why the robber barons of that era desired to push germ theory to the forefront.

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Hanneke Cavallaro's avatar

That was fantastic. Learned a bit. Will send this onwards. Regards Hanneke

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Isabel Livieva's avatar

A lemon a day keeps the virus away

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Rob Dubya's avatar

Thanks Simon. Ive listened to on a few poscasts and think you are a great mind. Im delighted to are willing to give a voice to those questioning the very existence of viruses.

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Sanjoy Mahajan's avatar

“Virus denier” is a term of propaganda.

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Michael Freed's avatar

There you have it, folks. People ion Western society believe that if A will kill them & their children, but politicians say they have to inject them with A anyway, that they simply must do so & that there is no legal way to stop getting themselves OR their children injected with A.

“Because Mommy-Government told us we have to.”

& you're SO terrified of angering Daddy that you're worried more about a doctor's OPINION than about the health & well-being of your own children.

They actually think that there are laws in place that say anywhere in their constitution that their politicians can mandate anything let alone untested products, & should they do so, then the citizens have zero choice but to comply with these decisions: that there are zero legal avenues against such tyranny in Free & democratic nations. & that this is written into their constitution.

They actually think that there are legalities forcing them to comply with decisions made by politicians/that this tyranny is legal.

What utter cowards you all are that you’d rather risk the health & well-being of everyone you’ve ever cared about than stand up for them against what? One Constipated-looking Scowl of Discontent From Mitch Pelosi? Or Nancy McConnell?

Your own children mean less to you than the Imaginary Love & Acceptance of these Complete Strangers who will never even know you exist?

Then take the damned jab already.

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Rob Dubya's avatar

Hi Lisa. I am not going to criticise you for questioning and being diligent. However, having been on both sides of this debate, discussing this with TMD on his substack and eing well aware of Jeremy Hammond, having followed JHs work for 2 years, i can categorically state, that at the very least, Mark Bailey and his associates are the real deal. It is fantastic that Simon is open minded enough to entertain Mark and listen, well prepared to open the conversation. I think if you spent a few days listening to all of Mark's evidence, along with the history of the virus lie, you might just surprise yourself. Go on, give it a go.

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Sanjoy Mahajan's avatar

It's not one of his best articles. Actually, I haven't read his other articles. So, I'll just say that that article is far from convincing and has many evidentiary holes that are filled with gaslighting. Rather than repeat my points about it here, I'll link to a comment thread there and readers can judge for themselves:

https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2022/10/17/answering-tom-cowans-five-simple-questions-for-virologists/#comments/400782

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Jeremy R. Hammond's avatar

I'm unclear what you are claiming about my article, but it appears you are claiming my own argument is invalid. If so, I challenge you to identify any factual or logical errors on my part.

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Sanjoy Mahajan's avatar

Perhaps you overlooked the last sentence of my comment (to which you are replying): "Rather than repeat my points about [the article] here, I'll link to a comment thread there and readers can judge for themselves."

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Jeremy R. Hammond's avatar

No, I didn't overlook that part of your comment. As I said, it appears to me that you are claiming that my argument "is far from convincing and has many evidentiary holes", so if I'm not misinterpreting, I challenge you to support that opinion with an argument. If I've misunderstood you, kindly clarify.

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Sanjoy Mahajan's avatar

Yes, I am claiming as much. Thus, I will just repeat my statement that begins with "[r]ather than repeat my points ... here" and gives a link to follow for anyone who wants the detailed argument.

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Rob Dubya's avatar

Jeremy Hammond is a dogmatic materialist that is lost in appeals to authority. He's one of those guys, who, on the face of it, appear to be extrememly intelligent, but in reality is just not really ablel to think outside the box or accept there is an immaterial world out there that we can still only hypothesise about

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Isabel Livieva's avatar

Yes this is my estimation of many phds and mds … they tend to be fearful and insecure … the same drive that pushed them into the field of science and medicine is materialistic so this is a problem. They aren’t scientists as much as they are ideologues who want to belong to a power structure.

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Jeremy R. Hammond's avatar

I am not a scientist. I am an independent journalist who has long exposed the government and mainstream media's lies about practically everything, from foreign policy to economics to vaccines.

I got into the "no virus" issue because of the immense harm it was causing to the health freedom movement during the lockdown madness.

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Isabel Livieva's avatar

I have no idea who you are!!! But I can tell you, the fear of germs is irrational. Microbial transmission is real. It is not the reason people get sick and die. Healthy cells do not get sick and die. It’s very simple, unless you are a billion dollar virus industry profiteering on the germ war

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Jeremy R. Hammond's avatar

Rob, I challenge you to identify any factual or logical errors in anything I have ever written about the topic.

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Jeremy R. Hammond's avatar

Describing me as "a dogmatic materialist that is lost in appeals to authority" is hilarious given my actual record challenging official dogma on a broad range of topics including so-called "public health" policies.

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